Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? I took it to the bmw for a diagnostic and they said that Im just better off replacing the engine than trying to find out what is wrong with the car. I've tested the soleniods and they are both good. The BMW N20 is a 1.6 and 2.0 L (98 and 122 cu in) turbocharged four-cylinder DOHC petrol engine with variable valve lift and variable valve timing which replaced the N53 (or BMW N52 in some markets) and was produced from 2011 to 2017 by BMW. The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. If you are using a Main labor code for Hello there, loving your info. I assume the tensioner is operated by oil pressure and its normal to feel some slack when the engine is not running? When retrieving BMW check engine light codes with an OBD II scan tool, proceed as follows: 1. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? and cam shaft are not in alignment any more. due to a low oil pressure and chain noise.now iam having inlet and outlet vanos dtc . Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. procedure outlined below. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? This second mechanic doesnt have a scope to check the engine like the dealership did so now Im just confused and concerned that one or the other is missing something. The extended warranty runs out in December. possible oil pump chain broken? Next day car returned to BMW with propulsion light . Your email address will not be published. Same. Hello did you ever resolve that issue? In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. Thanks for any input. Thats a good possibility thats the timing chain issue. Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. If that helps you with anything! BMW says I caused engine cease. Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! It cannot be timing. The VANOS cold start faults would reappear within 15 seconds of startup. Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i and its in the list. I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. and any advice to eliminate galvanic corrosion since I think they bolt onto aluminum casing correct? Sorry I dont see any video,,,,ok when you say the starter and engine dont appear to make attempt to start,,,,,question does the engine turn over when you are trying to start the car,,,,,question does the engine make any sound when trying to start the car,,,if the engine does not turn over when trying to start car,,,,try and turn the engine by hand from the front lower crankshaft bolt and see if the engine will turn. Im more concerned with the multiple vanos codes which happened after the fact. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. Any help would be appreciated My car has very low mileage, is in excellent condition and I really enjoy driving it, but this potential catastrophe has me concerned.Thank you for your time & expertise. Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. You referenced this TSB in your comment to Ronnie back in 2017. Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B12 15 13 dated September 2013. Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. Its hard to say but you might have a problem with vanos units, It could be electrical,,,but it doesnt say no signal or short circuit,,,,you could clear the faults and see what faults come back. Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. It looks like the car is on this recall list. And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: no hesitation. Think I'll avoid this. Required fields are marked *. Problem is, mine arent locked. Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. In sports mode, or when driving more active in doesn't come on. Note that the desired angle was constant. Location: Chicago. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. The process of deleting the faults and restarting the car was performed many times. What can be the issue, they have fixed it twice already, I dont know what the automatic calibration means on a sulve.,,,on this P3195 code that isnt a factory code so I dont know what it means,,,you said BMW fixed the radiator what did they do to the radiator,,,,did they replace it,,,,you could have a t-stat issue causing a temperature problem with the radiator,,,or a water pump issue,,,,I need BMW codes,,, not P codes. Well, you could, but it's a slim chance you get the length of the rod exactly right. Thats important to know for later. I have a f10 2013 528i x drive with 105k miles on it , The engine makes a rattling noise when cold and its not as loud when the car warms up but when driving at around 1-25 mph their is a whining noise coming from the engine. Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. Ive search, alot of people have it problem but no solution.It dont like bmw :). Also that didnt make a difference and fault is still on outlet side. with the following integration levels: One or more of the following faults is stored in the Example: P1055 Hex Codes are typically given by more advanced scanners. Common Symptoms Increase in fuel consumption Poor engine performance Possible misfire on start-up Cold start issues Possible Causes There are several possible causes for this code, such as: Damaged camshaft position sensor Defective crankshaft position sensor The boost disable fault was cleared and the engine restarted. Maybe the function test is different with cold start faults present. Cloning means making full copy of ISN files from original DME and copy it over to use DME, So what happens if the ISN files are corrupted and you just copied it over to the other DMEare the pins damaged on the original DME ,,,or are the connection on the harness damage,,,,we just had a car last mouth where the harness was damaged for the fuel injector signals causing fuel to dump,,,the harness was damaged on the connector for the DME,,,you might have to perform OHM test on the harness to make sure the harness and connections are good. If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue How can fuel be the cause? 5%? I checked the timing chain, it looks fine. Hi Chip.. Did you ever come across a step by step procedure in doing this? It had deteriorated and failed. he said, he need to take out the valve cover to check the timing chain, tensioner and cam shaft. Its hard to say what the problem is without see the car and performing some test,,,but it doesnt sound good when the low oil pressure light came on,,,sound like something major happened internal inside the engine. I know there has been a lot of people complaining to BMW NA about this problem,,,I think there is a case where people are trying to sue BMW over the timing chain issue,,,one of the problems is none of the other BMW have this problem only the N20-N26. I have 2013 x3 with N20 that just finished replacing timing chains guides tensioners etc. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle This is due to a diagnostic programming error in the DME. BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - 2017), Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum, https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/fshaft/HtiBPV3K, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2053485-8362.pdf. 96K views 5 years ago The BMW N54 and N52 typically have the most issues with this. Even though work time labor operation code 61 00 006 ends in 006, it is not considered a Main What me be causing this? I did not receive this bulletin to my knowledge, maybe because I am the 2nd owner of the car as of February 2019(?). 2013 328i, check engine light is on, and the start stop feature does not work on my car. Clean both solenoids and reinstall. New chain and guides and so far no problems. Last question- if it is a failing timing chain- is this a something best repaired in a couple weeks, or do I have a few months. Picture of my timing chain guide rail cracking: https://imgur.com/4P3ATsK. Entdecken Sie SKF VKMA38227 Keilrippenriemensatz Keilriemen Satz Keilriemensatz fr BMW in der groen Auswahl bei eBay. Its hard to say what the problem is with out hearing and driving the car,,,,I dont think the noise is timing chain because that makes a whining noise,,,the only leak could be a exhaust leak but you said the steering also shakes,,,have you had the tires and rims checked make sure rims are not bent,,,also check the rear transmission mount make sure they are not cracked or broken,,,also check the drive belt tensioner could be a problem. F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). when he took a test drive, the codes again cam back. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: 61 00 720 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) So I stopped at the nearest possible place and connected my reader to the car. 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. your input is much apreciated, There a BMW sib 12 15 13 which says this problem is due to a software issue with the DME ,,,,you need to program the vehicle,,,,you can see the bulletin on the Internet. Ok you have a couple of things going on here,,,,that fault code just ignore,,,that fault code is a bogus fault some kind of software bug,,,,,ok you start stop function not working I dont know without looking at the car,,,,now the car shutting off while driving sound like the fuel pump and the fuel pump relay EKPS module is going bad,,,,I would have those checked out next time. 2008 BMW 128I [0.00] Check engine light DTC 131501. Code 131401 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS exhaust cold start not controllable, Your problem could be a programming issue or it could could both vanos units as per sib bulletin 12 14 12, Hello, I replaced the oil filter, inspected the oil filter basket and the green O ring at the bottom. Now im getting vanos inlet, outlet codes, along with vanos camshaft jammed for both intake and exhaust. I have the alignment tool to lock the crankshaft, camshafts and impulse sending wheel. Thank you, Rev match I say problem. I have a 2013 528xi. 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